MARCIE
FREE
Voices Of Rock & Metal (Issue 001: Jul 2000)


SINCE THE RESURRECTION of the King Kobra name, interest has once again begun to mount in Marcie Free.
Fireworks, through Kieran Dargon, persuaded Marcie to talk to him in what Marcie has now stated will be her last ever dip into the muddy waters of the music business, so this really is.. THE LAST WORD...
'Actually I never really enjoyed performing all that much. So many things can go wrong.'
What prompted you to actually stop recording and performing, or was it a combination of factors, if so what were they?
Actually I never really enjoyed performing all that much. So many things can go wrong. I always hated not being able to hear myself sing properly through the shitty monitors most of the time.
Recording though I loved. It was like being able to paint on a completely blank canvas pretty much anything you wanted. After coming out with my gender identity issue the music business quickly shunned me. For quite a few years prior to coming out I had worked on the side singing commercials for anything from shampoo to beer, and made quite a handsome living at it. It was the perfect way for a singer to make a living while in between record deals. But, after it became known what was going on with me the phone instantly stopped ringing for my ser-vices. was literally forced to tind another means of income. So, I took a serious look at what were my best chances of succeeding for the future as myself and decided to get some education regarding something else that / could be interested in doing for the rest of my life. That something was Real Estate Finance! Being that I was so quickly forgotten and treated like some diseased animal from people who I had known for so many years in the business, I hardened my heart too, and basically gave everyone in the business the one finger salute and said to myself those S.O.B.'s can kiss my rosie red ass before I will ever record for them again.
Some people found it extremely difficult to accept your gender change and as a result more than a few distasteful comments were made, what sort of reaction did you expect, or seeing as the situation was personal to you, were you at all interested in what others had to say?
I believe my previous response gives a great deal of insight as to the reaction / received from most people. Of course there were my close friends who to this day will stick by me no matter what.
But for the most part I adapted the following philosophy: one third of the people will hate you, one third of the people will love you, and one third of the people will be indifferent to you. / sought out the third of the people who loved me and gravitated myself to them, because life is much too short to worry yourself with people who don’t care for you. For instance, take a present subject that has come into the current events section of the United States media for example. A new biography of Ronald Reagan has just surfaced and the buzz is that he was this way or that depending on your political view. The bottom line is that here was someone who just tried to make a difference in the lives of the masses that didn't have the energy or the means to do for themselves what he had the desire and the energy to do for them. Also, if you were to listen to some of the so called historians who will be responsible for what is said about him in the history books he was just some airhead misfit actor who had no compassion for anyone except the extremely wealthy in the United States and around the world. Look, no matter what you do or say, some people will always criticise you and want and expect more from you for the simple reason, they cannot or do not want to take the time to relate to you. You just have to deal with it.
"Tormented" was released in 1994 on Long Island Records, your ex Unruly Child band mate Bruce Gowdy has said some things in a recent interview about his songs being used without his permission and the fact that he was never paid for his contribution. Is this something you were aware of and if so would you care to offer your side of the story?
First of all, it is very unfortunate that Bruce doesn't have the courage to deal with me face to face, and feels his only recourse is to attack me in the media.
Secondly, I am not aware of what Bruce's comments were, or what his allegations were regarding this matter...but since you brought this up.... feel obliged to do what I do best. Tell the truth. So, for the record... Bruce was fully aware from the very beginning that I intended to release those songs as a Marcie Free solo album, and I had his blessings.
Most of those songs were the demo's we did after the failure of Unruly Child, and were just sitting around collecting dust; because after I came out with my gender identity issue, he and I and everyone else in the band went searching for the nearest lifeboat, and knew that they had little or no chance of ever being released legitimately. (By that I mean a major US label release). That being said, months after the disbandment of Unruly Child/12 Pound Sledge, was starting to receive offers from a German record company, for doing a solo deal as Marcie Free - and they would be willing to accept anything wanted to release to them. I then presented the idea to Bruce that would release those songs as a Marcie Free solo album, and he agreed that as long as paid him 20% of the advance money, he would be happy and willing to go along with it. After I had hired a lawyer, and negotiated with this company for four months, they decided at the very last minute, not to go through with the deal. I was quickly reaching the end of my rope. I decided that / was done with the music business, and, after receiving an offer to come home from my brother, I left LA and moved home permanently to be with my family. A month later, I got a call from Khalil Turk, a friend who lives in the UK, who guaranteed me he could land a deal with these songs through his connections with Long Island - but to expect considerably less advance money than I had previously been asking for. Being unemployed, and in a disastrous financial state, I agreed to have him represent me, and present the offer to Long Island.
About a month and a half later, on 20/11/95 / received a wire transfer for the advance money we had agreed on. Needless to say, that money went out as quickly as it came in. Shortly thereafter, I received an employment opportunity with a mortgage company, and worked and saved my money until I finally had a surplus large enough to pay both Bruce and Guy Allison. Although I had no agreement with Guy, I felt his input in the creation of those songs, and for being a good friend through-out the years should not go unrewarded. On 11/12/97, Bruce Gowdy received a cheque from me for 22% of the advance money I had from Long Island. Guy Allison received a cheque from me for 7.5% of those same advance monies. I was left with a gross of 70%, out of which taxes and legal fees were paid. Let me say this - shortly after the release of the "Tormented" album, Long Island went out of business. To this day I have not received one penny in addition to the advance money I initially received. Where is all the money from the sales of those records going? Not to me that's for sure!!!
I realise Bruce feels he was treated unfairly by me, but as I explained, he was paid in accordance with our original agreement. I cannot help the fact that the advance money was not as large as we initially anticipated. Nor would it have made any financial sense for me to attempt to pay everyone else involved in the making of that record. The poultry amount! would have been able to offer them would have been an insult to their hard work and superb talent. The problem is (and I have found out the hard way!) so many of these so called 'record companies' throughout Europe and Japan are nothing but a big SHAM who entice artists with a following to sign with them only to sell tons of their product and turn round and either not pay the artist, or go out of business.
I do feel very badly about how Bruce's and my relationship has ended up. I tried contacting him to make amends but he hung up on me the last time I phoned him. I absolutely HATE having to air our dirty laundry in public like this.
This is precisely the kind of SHIT that makes me glad I will never record another album as long as I live.
'This is precisely the kind of SHIT that makes me glad I will never record another album as long as I live.'
Your absence over the last number of years from the music industry has been self enforced, did you keep up to date with all the various happenings or do you now tind yourselt out of touch?
Very much out of touch I would say. Until about 3 weeks ago I had never been on the Internet. I was blown away at all the chatter about me and very impressed by all the wonderful support I have received from practically all the fans out there.
Are you surprised to find that there is still a melodic rock/AOR scene in existence, albeit on a much smaller scale than when you 'retired?
Not surprised at all. I knew it would die out somewhat because that's the nature of the business to try to find something different. But I always knew that melodies would prevail in the long run, because it's like I always say "Melodies are a timeless fortune, and licks are a dime a dozen"
Your recordings with all your bands, especially Unruly Child, Signal and your solo release "Long way from love" are widely regarded as classics of a Genre - does this surprise you!
Yes, to be sure. Frankly I still don't feel that what I did in the music business was as great an accomplishment as someone like Robert Plant or David Coverdale or Lou Gramm. suppose it's because the bands I was in never experienced commercial success at the times I was in them.
There have been, from time to time, various selections of unreleased material surfacing as bootlegs which world wide, among traders, are that at some stage in the future you may consider issuing this material in an official format?
Absolutely not! I say, let them fight over them after am dead. Probably much like they fought over Jimi's stuff.
I know your recent message to your fans that you have made no decision as regards playing live again, but many will be keen to know if you still sing, or do you still have 'The Voice'?
Yes I still sing, and yes I still have 'The Voice, but mainly I just sing in the car or while playing my acoustic guitar. I haven't lost the voice, just the desire.

Carmine has said, through the King Kobra web page, that a reunion is happening and that you had been asked to participate. Have you made any decision as regards this?
Yes that's true. He called me and brought up the idea of touring in Europe and Japan. In all honesty I must tell you that I have made a decision about that possibility. That decision was made on July 30th, 1996 the day | left King Kobra. I decided then that / was through being Carmine's slot machine. Put a nickel in and take a chance on hitting the 'Jackpot', and by all means, God love him, I don't mean that as a personal attack against him in any way. I hope he and I can go to the grave as personal friends, but I just will never work with him again.
Even if you decide not to play out live again, do you think that Marcie Free will record again in the near future? (It would certainly be a dream come true for a lot of fans.)
When I posted the question on my web page, "what makes a person want to become famous in the first place?" I mean you have to examine why people feel the need to express themselves in a way that attracts others. I believe it is because they are incapable of feeling a sense of self-love and self respect.
Therefore searching for these essential aspects of a fulfilling life outside themselves thinking that others may give it to them if only they can prove themselves worthy of praise on a massive scale. When I became truthful with who I really am, I immediately (literally overnight) lost the desire/need for validation from the people. This is so powerful you can't even imagine.
The whole idea of putting myself up for the possibility for rejection as I did for so many years in the music business became instantly an unthinkable reality. I then started to realise and appreciate all the other wonderful talent and ability God has given me and singing became just another one of the many. The answer to your question though is probably not. I have no plans to record in the near future or anything else as far as that goes. I'm done.
Who do you listen to today, is there any artist out there that inspires you?
I don't listen to music that much anymore. If I do, it's mostly a variety of 70's & 80's classic rock, mixed with 80's new wave/alternative, and smooth jazz. I am more into current political news and events as years go by. Gosh, am I becoming my parents? Drat!
Is there any message that you would like to pass on to your many fans who will read this interview?
Just know that if I could have stayed the way I was I would have in a heartbeat. All I ever wanted in life was just to be normal like everyone else. I must tell you this though...this is most likely the last interview will give. Since I have become recently involved through the Internet the response has been well overwhelming to say the least. Don't take that upon yourselves as if you did anything to upset me. It's not that at all. It's just that I have so many painful memories of my past, that over the last six years I have tried to overcome only to realise now that it all comes rushing back each time read a testimonial letter addressed to me, or have someone who I haven't seen in ten years write to me wanting to know what happened with my gender and everything. I need more time to weigh out the relevance and importance of these things in relation to my life now. believe the old saying is "everything in moderation". So please allow me to step back every now and then and collect myself if I get lost along the way.

